April 29, 2024
What Are We Up To?
It's been said many times that there's never a dull moment in our lives. That has certainly been the case for the three of us. We thought it would be fun to tell you what your co-hosts have been up to lately, both in our lives and with our birds.
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Hi! Welcome to the Poultry Keepers Podcast.
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I'm Rip Stalvey, and together with Mandelyn Royal and John Gunterman, we're your co hosts for this show, and it's our mission to help you have a happy, healthy, and productive flock.
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Hello, Poultry Keepers podcast listeners.
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We haven't really talked about us, what we're doing in a good long time.
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Mandelyn has just started a job it's, she's running hither and tither and trying to get all her birds going and everything done.
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Mandelyn what's up with you lately?
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I'm neck deep into a feed trial, where I'm growing out 55 chicks now.
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And we're looking to find the FCR of how much feed does it take to bring these birds up to market age.
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And right after I started that trial, I started back to work.
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Thankfully, I'm part time now because it was way too much to keep track of, but now I'm refocused, re centered, and everything is going smoothly there.
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I kept hatching, and now I have every single brooder full.
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Folks, if you're not sure what she's talking about when she said FCR.
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It is the feed conversion ratio.
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Yes, very important data to know if you're going to do anything with market birds.
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Are your birds laying well this time of year?
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They should, I'm thinking they probably should be, but.
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Most of them are giving me the six eggs a week that I would like them to do, but I have noticed that in my older lady pen, there's a 50 percent production and.
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I'll have to check and see if it's an obesity problem, because with the American Bresse they can get a little too fat in time, and I'll probably get in there and find the worst hen in the pen and processor and see what's going on and if I need to do a molt ration on a couple of them and split that pen up to bring the better ones back into production.
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How old are these birds?
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Some of them are up to three, four years old.
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Okay, so if they haven't been through a good hard molt yet, they probably need to shed some internal fat to get back into laying trim?
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They're definitely shaped like bowling balls.
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But really, if you stop and think about it, a 3 or 4 year old hen laying at a 50 percent rate, that's not all that bad.
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I'd be happy with that, even with a good hard molt.
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Normally, they'll take longer breaks as they get older for me, but when they are in active lay, it's still that 5 6 eggs a week.
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They just don't do it for as long of a period of time before they take another little break.
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Gotcha.
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Sure.
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John, I know you've been immobilized here for a little while.
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It's been a spring.
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In the middle of doing a classroom hatch at the preschool where I chef and do farm to preschool education at I had a rather unfortunate incident something called a trimolar fracture of my right.
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But onto the important things is I'm going to be non weight bearing on my right foot for, I'm six weeks in and my surgeon says that I can start thinking about weight bearing in another six to eight weeks wheelchair for six months minimum.
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So we had to make some serious changes around the farm.
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Wheelchair during mud season is a common thing.
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We were still snowing here when this happened.
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I slipped on the ice.
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It was nobody's fault but my own for not having my little ice grippies on the bottom of my feet.
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Things happen.
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We've since had a 2 plus foot snowstorm and a 3 foot.
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Snowstorm we're just now getting into spring and mud season.
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So luckily the VA has been hugely supportive of my agricultural and other endeavors and they fit me for a new wheelchair coming with big fat mud tires so I could, maybe continue chickening and not get, quagmired in the mud.
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When all this happened I reached out to some folks who were in line to do some testing for me on my breeding projects and said, Hey, would you be interested in a whole pile of really nice Chanticleers?
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And luckily one of our listeners Esther Feathers was very interested and she made the drive all the way up from New Hampshire and basically took all my current stock.
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Back home with her.
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And it's been so amazing to watch them grow out vicariously through her and watch their development and they're tracking just the way I would expect them to.
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But to keep the breeding program moving forward I can't take a year off because I know if I take a year off, it's going to set me back a year or three.
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So we're still working with somewhat smaller hatch, I think total was a hundred eggs set that we're keeping to sort through.
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And we're growing those out right now.
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Everybody's in the barn, they're doing well trying to mitigate the challenges of how to get them out to pasture while the pasture is wet and I'm in a wheelchair.
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So they'll probably stay in the barn for a little while longer.
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We've got a nice hatching time brooder and grow out pen cage set up for them to make it easier for me to manage from a wheelchair.
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A lot of it's just been, adapting to life from a seated position and keeping the breeding program moving forward.
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We have this responsibility to our birds to feed them and give them the best possible care despite our challenges.
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And I do take that responsibility heavily, and, I was grateful that somebody was able to step up and take the birds that I wasn't able to care for at the time.
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And I think that's important is to have a backup plan for catastrophic emergencies, we just weren't capable of caring for these birds, and somebody needed to do that, or I needed to put them down, and that would have been incredibly inhumane.
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I think another aspect of Esther having your birds is that's another satellite flock of your genetics should you suffer a catastrophic loss.
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Yeah, definitely.
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I call them my seed flocks when I set up local people with them, and with the only stipulation that you got to keep that line pure so that they can keep moving forward from where they are, rather than interrupting them with a line cross and resetting the whole thing, because that turns into a three to five year project every time you do that.
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Sure.
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And now I have an outlet for, so I grew up these 60 plus birds, and I have more than I can keep that are keeper quality.
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They're gonna be first on my list.
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As, hey, I've got some great birds that I can't keep.
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Do you want them?
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And if they don't want them, I've got people, further down the line.
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But I, I think it's all about, when you have great quality genetics and people that are interested in putting forth the effort and expense to encourage them as much as possible, and it becomes a mutually beneficial arrangement.
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If I need to reach back for some of my genetics, I know they're available.
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If they have a problem, I can give them a rooster or send them a couple of hens and keep our lines strong.
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And the added bonus is they're pretty close to my upstream breeder, geographically.
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I haven't made the introduction yet, but they, I believe they're about an hour apart.
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Whereas we're
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pretty well into setting up a little community network up there in.
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Upper East.
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Yes, between New Hampshire and Vermont we're starting to build a pretty strong following of Chanticleers, and we are starting to get an interest in the American Bresse.
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I've met another Chanticleer breeder who said that they would be very interested in trying to do a Bresse Chanticleer cross.
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That's going pretty okay for the F1, the small batch of Eleven chicks I just sorted through, and half of them are feeling absolutely fantastic.
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And, these are neat to grow out, and seeing where they favor which breed is really interesting, and I don't see much breast on the outside, but I feel it on the inside.
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Yeah.
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So that's where you go.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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And, ultimately, on the plate and on the spreadsheet.
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I've got a couple of breasts that I've hatched out from eggs of yours, and they're doing great.
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I deliberately put them in with a batch of Chanticleer eggs, and as far as the breasts know, they're not Chanticleers.
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Are the horns picking up that rounded shape yet?
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They are! Even at this age, the breasts are distinctly larger.
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And the blue feet is a dead giveaway, as well as the combs are starting to come in.
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They're at such a cute age.
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They're like two and a half weeks, so they're in that awkward, I call it the teenager, gangly phase.
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Oh, it gets worse from here.
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Oh,
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yeah, I know.
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I know.
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But I love this, when they're just starting that molt and getting ready to get their hard feathers in.
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And if there's a male, you ought to start seeing little pink combs sprouting up any day now.
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That's what I'm looking at, what we have, trying to figure out who they are.
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They'll tell you quicker than the Chantecleres do.
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Months quicker.
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I'm very envious.
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I'm sitting here, I'm listening to Mandy talk about all the Bresse she's raising.
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I'm listening to John talk about what he's up to.
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And I'm sitting down here and Florida, and I learned a long time ago that it's best not to hatch my reds in the spring of the year because you hatch them in February, March, April, they come out of the brooder and they're sitting out there in the hot weather and they just sit there, they don't eat much, they don't grow much so by hatching in October I can take advantage of the cool weather, and by the time we start to get hot temperatures, they're pretty much mature at that part, but it, I'll be honest with you, I've got my females are laying and it's paining me greatly not to be putting those eggs in the incubator.
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Oh, you could sneak a couple in.
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Rip, do you think there, here's an interesting experiment just popped into my head, here's a squirrel hole A batch raised in the spring versus a batch raised in the fall, how would they express differently based on the, just the climate that they're being raised in?
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The difference between a summer brood and a winter brood, so to speak.
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And we've talked about, comb differences but just overall, I have noticed birds raised in heat and humidity, they just don't put on weight as fast, they're very lethargic and slow.
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No,
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They don't.
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Now, could that over a period of several generations be mitigated by local adaptation?
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I haven't seen it happen yet, John.
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Okay.
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At least here in the southeast, and I know.
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Quite a few Red breeders, and we all get together and we mumble and gripe about the hot weather and what it does to our birds.
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And, we take the necessary steps to get the air moving, plenty of shade, cool water, the whole nine yards, but it, they just, and honestly, I wondered if it's not something to do with their dark coloration
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They're going to absorb a lot more heat from the sun, but see, to me, this highlights the importance of having local knowledge to share with people who have been doing this for a while.
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You just said in your area, everybody mumbles and grumbles about it and you have to hatch in the fall.
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For a new poultry keeper who's online going, yeah, spring is the time to hatch, they may be setting themselves up.
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Maybe not.
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Get in touch with the local people and find out what does well in your area and when it does well in your area.
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The right bird in the right place at the right time.
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What's the rate of lay, and if they're laying well now, how many of them are still laying well once you get to October, September, that time frame, because I filter my hens again, if they're not still laying in the fall, I cycle them back out, so You might actually be looking at finding your better producing females by waiting until that time of year for the ones who are still in active lay at that time.
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I'm Mandelyn, I think what I'm going to do is I'm just going to monitor their production and if I see it starting to taper off, July, August, whatever I may go ahead and put them through a molt so they'll be coming back into production when I want the eggs.
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Oh, so you can schedule it, okay.
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And you're coming up on just the right age, too.
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Yeah.
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Where you want to pull your breeders from.
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They will be a little over a year old.
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Just coming out of their first
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molt?
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They'll be older than that.
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They'll probably be 15, 16 months old, something like that.
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Perfect.
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So they've been around the calendar once, they've shown you what they've got.
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On the other side of that coin is that, that's pretty good timing and works well for showing birds because you get them through the summer and they molt, they do their thing.
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Most of our shows down here are in the fall and winter.
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And if you're hatching them January, February, March, it's hard to have them and keep them in show condition for our fall shows.
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But by delaying the hatching, that that helps me overcome that a little bit.
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Not that I'm able to get out and show much anymore, but it's old habits, are still hard for me to break.
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Did your area have a big Future Farmers of America
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or 4 H program?
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We do, but they have not been very active in poultry.
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I have tried to cultivate that for a number of years.
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Yes,
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I found a couple of youngsters here that are interested and have seeded them with some of my Chanticleer every year for the past couple of years.
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I think it has as much to do with the ag teacher as anything else.
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Most of our ag teachers down here are either into row crops, citrus production, or beef cattle.
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Is what it is.
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I know there's, you get out in the Midwest, there's a lot of FFA and 4 H kids into poultry out there and Mandy up in your area, a tremendous FFA program out there.
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Yeah, we have a lot of little poultry groups, and I've set up a couple of 4 H kids, and that's been neat, because when the judges get their hands on the birds, they're like, oh, wow, there's meat on this bird.
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That's exactly right.
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So we'll see how that goes.
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I'd love to see a sustainable poultry category when they get together for their little shows and stuff, because right now it's more of your show type birds.
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Or showmanship, or the commercial hybrids.
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I was thinking, maybe a crazy but a heritage poultry or dual purpose poultry show where you actually have to submit your egg production and meat production records along with the birds that you're showing.
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Say, this is what I kept.
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This is the rest of their cohort.
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This is, this is their feed conversion ratio.
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This is their rate of lay.
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These birds produced are not just pretty.
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John, back when standard bred poultry was the commercial birds they used to do that.
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There were egg shows, there were carcass shows, of course, the live bird shows there were even shows for baby chicks.
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So they used to do a lot of that.
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It's with the advent of the commercial poultry industry, some of that kind of got shot in the foot, I agree with it.
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It'd be cool.
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It'd be fun.
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In some level of engagement, I'm always thinking when I'm able to get back to farmer's market bringing one of those little pack and play portable cribs.
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And, putting a hen and a couple of, two or three week old chicks in that pack and play next to my trailer, just to have some, nice interaction, people walking by, families walking by, it's cuteness, it's cool, it's nature, it draws customers into my booth, I'll take that.
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I wonder what the participation could actually be, because one thing I've realized by doing this feed trial is doing the data collection.
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You have to set that as a priority and you can't skip a day it's a special kind of tedium that I'm enjoying, but I don't know that it's for everyone.
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You're probably right, it takes a huge amount of commitment.
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Oh, for what you're doing, yes.
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For even a Even modest numbers, for my own use, would take a whole lot of commitment, as it would for anybody else.
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And what you're doing, is you're comparing a couple of different lines of Bresse, and a couple of different types of feed, and all that.
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It takes a lot of dedication to pull one of those off.
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I split it up the best I could, and my next round is going to be crumble feed versus the Kraut Creek milled feed on the same genetic pool.
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Splitting a hatch in half.
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I got goosebumps when I heard you mentioned that on your YouTube video.
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It's like that, that right there.
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Yes.
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I'm pretty excited about round two.
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I would be interested to see what that reveals.
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Side by side.
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That's beautiful.
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Yeah, great stuff.
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But if people don't know, within two or three bags of feed per year, It costs to keep their chickens.
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It's something you should look into.
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It's very revealing.
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And I know Mandy hadn't been into her feed trials probably enough to know, but when I switched from over the counter feeds at the big box stores custom milled feed, I'd have to go back and look it up, okay?
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But my feed consumption dropped 20 to 25 percent from what it was over the big box feeds.
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I believe that.
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Based on my initial data, that's probably going to prove to be true in my second round of trials.
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Yeah, probably is.
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I started doing two things at the same time.
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I started using the Fertrell Breeder's Supplement and NutriBalancer, as well as constant access to grit, as well as calcium, but grit is the most important part, and between those two things, I can't attribute it to any one thing.
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I'm looking at a 20 percent savings overall.
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I know grit can be anywhere between 5 and 10 percent increase on its own just by adding that to commercial feed.
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Their grit increased when I changed the feed type.
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They
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will need more grit to grind the whole grains.
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If a bird has a gizzard, it needs grit.
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It's essential to proper gizzard action and to get all the nutrients that you've already paid to put down the bird's beak, extracted before it comes out the back end.
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Yeah, that's true.
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And I've noticed almost a 50 percent increase in their grit consumption by switching to a milled feed.
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It was significant.
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Now, describe what you mean by a milled feed, if you would, Mandy.
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You can still see the ingredients that make it up because it's been ground down.
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And that grind varies by the age of the bird.
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So the chick starter was pretty powdery and they weren't sorting through it.
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They were clearing out that feeder as if they knew it was good stuff.
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And it took me a couple of weeks to figure out exactly how much to give them every day to make sure they had 10 percent left at the end of the day.
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And there were a couple of times when they had it down to, there wasn't even left and I'm like, Oh, they would have eaten more.
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Oh, goodness.
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So that's why I'm going to do a couple more trials and get those numbers right to figure out what they actually want to have every day.
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That uniform mash size is really important cause, the chickens they're greedy buggers and they're going to take the biggest piece first, no matter what it is.
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Second priority is always corn, and then anything else.
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So if they can't really sort, if everything's the same size, they're just going to, hopefully go to town.
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Got some corn candy here and there to make them happy.
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Yeah, I was a little surprised because it wasn't the first time I've used a milled feed.
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I tried the house blend of our local mill.
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And I ended up seeing some vitamin deficiencies.
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The eggs weren't as good as they were.
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And there was a clumping issue in the feeders I had.
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And I don't think I kept them on it for longer than five weeks before.
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I was like, I gotta go back to what I was doing, but this time.
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It's just a much better quality behind it.
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It smells better.
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It smells different.
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Just, even though the style of feed was the same, the ingredient quality is different.
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And you have a better nutritional profile because you actually have a poultry nutritionist sent them the formula and said, Make this.
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I'm excited for when we have Jeff on to talk about this stuff.
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Cause he's far more of an expert than I am.
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He's just my helper and nutritionist for this season.
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And he's telling me everything I do wrong or right.
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And having his insight during the process has been really invaluable.
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So I can't wait till we have him on the show.
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So that's one thing I really like about Jeff.
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He'll be honest with you.
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He doesn't pull any punches.
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If you're doing something right.
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